1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,600 'In the criminal justice system, ' 2 00:00:01,601 --> 00:00:03,560 'the people are represented by two 3 00:00:03,561 --> 00:00:05,519 separate yet equally important groups.' 4 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:07,279 'The police who investigate crime' 5 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,198 'and the Crown Prosecutors who prosecute the offenders.' 6 00:00:10,199 --> 00:00:12,320 'These are their stories.' 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,399 Has Daddy's plane landed yet? 8 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,678 Uh... Not yet. 9 00:00:26,679 --> 00:00:29,959 Is he staying for long? For a bit. 10 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,359 I wish he could stay for ever. 11 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,959 Me, too, sweetie. Me, too. 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,798 Max, oh, I'm so sorry. 13 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:39,039 Be careful with that. Pick it up. I'm sorry. 14 00:01:21,799 --> 00:01:24,439 MAN IN DISTANCE: 'I can't confirm casualties. 15 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:28,080 'I will need all back-up in the local area. Over.' 16 00:01:36,159 --> 00:01:38,678 MAN OUTSIDE: 'Mind your backs! Coming through!' 17 00:01:40,839 --> 00:01:42,919 Hello? 18 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:47,959 Boys! Boys! 19 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,200 Over here! 20 00:01:52,359 --> 00:01:54,239 Hello, mate. 21 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,558 Keep looking at me. Just keep looking at me. 22 00:01:56,559 --> 00:01:59,280 I need a paramedic and I need a paramedic now! 23 00:02:01,319 --> 00:02:05,198 Can you... Can you tell me your name? 24 00:02:05,199 --> 00:02:06,878 Max. 25 00:02:06,879 --> 00:02:08,479 Max. 26 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:11,438 Max, I'm Sam, right? 27 00:02:11,439 --> 00:02:14,238 Keep your eyes open. Keep your eyes open. 28 00:02:14,239 --> 00:02:15,878 The doctor's on his way, OK? 29 00:02:15,879 --> 00:02:17,558 I want my mummy. 30 00:02:17,559 --> 00:02:19,119 I know. 31 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,598 I promise you, as soon as I can, I'll go and find your mum. 32 00:02:22,599 --> 00:02:25,520 Just keep looking at me, alright, mate? Max. 33 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:30,279 I need a paramedic! I need a paramedic now! 34 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,159 NOW! 35 00:02:34,599 --> 00:02:36,879 Max... Come on, mate. 36 00:02:40,199 --> 00:02:42,279 Come on, mate. 37 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,879 Come on! 38 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,440 OK. I got it. 39 00:02:58,679 --> 00:03:00,279 No. 40 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,999 It is carnage out there. 41 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,360 We've got hundreds injured. 12 dead. 42 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,079 No systolic. 43 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,960 13 dead. 44 00:04:10,359 --> 00:04:11,999 Hello, hello, hello! 45 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,198 Look at you, "Detective Inspector" Leyton! 46 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:17,998 Heard you were covering for the Guv. How you doing, Wes? 47 00:04:17,999 --> 00:04:19,879 I'm doing alright. How are you, Ron? 48 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,559 Shouldn't you be chasing patients round Dartmoor? 49 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,638 Not much they couldn't do without me. 50 00:04:24,639 --> 00:04:28,679 What have we got, sir? This is a County Trains commuter. 51 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,279 5.15 from Portsmouth Harbour. Gets into Waterloo 52 00:04:31,280 --> 00:04:33,878 about seven, absolutely packed to the rafters. 53 00:04:33,879 --> 00:04:35,558 Take it that driver's a gonner? 54 00:04:35,559 --> 00:04:37,598 Strangely enough, wasn't even inside. 55 00:04:37,599 --> 00:04:40,078 Yeah? Response ran the plates. 56 00:04:40,079 --> 00:04:42,159 PNC'd them. It's definitely a ringer. 57 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,999 And it has over 100 speeding tickets dating back six months. 58 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:48,880 How did he get the car on the tracks? 59 00:04:48,881 --> 00:04:51,080 Whoever was driving it crashed through 60 00:04:51,081 --> 00:04:53,278 an access gate half a mile back. 61 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,959 Somebody's got CCTV on it? 62 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:59,519 Rail company will send it over soon as they collate it themselves. 63 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:03,159 You know the drill. I need all the passengers ID'd and interviewed. 64 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:04,799 Already up and running. 65 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:08,118 Your partner gone wibble, has he? He looks a bit... 66 00:05:08,119 --> 00:05:12,919 There was a young boy on the train. He tried to save him. Couldn't... 67 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:16,879 Make sure he attends debrief and gets some counselling. Absolutely. 68 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:18,958 Pint down the Red Lion after shift. 69 00:05:18,959 --> 00:05:22,678 Double whisky chaser, no ice, and a packet of dry roasted! 70 00:05:22,679 --> 00:05:25,679 How's that for a memory? Lots to catch up on. 71 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,679 Yeah. More than you know, Wes. 72 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,679 It was just... on the tracks. 73 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,679 No signals, no warning? Nothing. 74 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,999 I slammed on the brakes the second I saw it, but it was too late. 75 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,640 I must have pushed it half a mile at least. 76 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,198 I thought I was never gonna see my kids again. 77 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,439 Well, you will, Mr King. Don't worry. 78 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,640 We'll get you warm. Get a cup of tea. We need a 79 00:05:49,641 --> 00:05:51,839 statement from you when you're up to it, OK? 80 00:05:51,840 --> 00:05:54,639 Dave, do me a favour. Take care of Mr King for me. 81 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,160 Cheers. Thank you. 82 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,799 Right. False plates. 83 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,759 Restricted area. This is no accident, is it? 84 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,919 He'd have to know about the gate, and the timetable. 85 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,239 What are you saying? Disgruntled employee, or what? 86 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,240 You mean there's other jobs that suck? 87 00:06:11,919 --> 00:06:13,719 Pete, what have you got? 88 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,278 Not much, I'm afraid. 89 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,499 But when we get this back to base, we can find 90 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:19,718 the VIN, and see if he's left anything in it. 91 00:06:19,719 --> 00:06:21,959 13 dead bodies in that tent and you've... 92 00:06:23,639 --> 00:06:25,760 You've got nothing. 93 00:06:28,999 --> 00:06:31,359 Just drove right through, look. 94 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,438 Do we know who was minding the shop? 95 00:06:33,439 --> 00:06:36,719 Haleton Security. They've got the contract with County Trains. 96 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,119 Uniform are on to it, and they've got a list of all their employees. 97 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,439 When he crashes through the gate, why doesn't it trigger the alarm? 98 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,958 It did. By the time they'd radioed the train, it was too late. Why? 99 00:06:46,959 --> 00:06:49,439 Why the slow response? It happened 100 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:51,918 bang on shift change at Haleton. 6:30. 101 00:06:51,919 --> 00:06:53,799 What, he crashed the train at 6:30 and 102 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,679 collision with the train at 6:36? 103 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,599 Yeah. He's cutting it fine. How did he know when to time it? 104 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:00,999 Maybe you're right. This could be an employee 105 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,398 of the rail company or the security firm. 106 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:05,059 Or some train spotter. Maybe he just 107 00:07:05,060 --> 00:07:06,719 did a bit of research beforehand. 108 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:10,118 Thing is, you can't tell who's in that truck from this, can you? 109 00:07:10,119 --> 00:07:12,159 That's cos the cameras are set up to catch 110 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,199 trespassers climbing over the fence. 111 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,879 Not cars smashing through it! What time was the site secured? 112 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:22,559 6:55. He had plenty of time to get on his toes, then. 113 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,960 We've got CCTV footage checking it now. See 114 00:07:24,961 --> 00:07:27,360 if he's escaped further down the line. 115 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,639 We've processed around 100. Another 120 to go. 116 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,999 What about the ones that went to hospital? 117 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,119 I've got officers talking to them, too. 118 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,838 So no-one saw anything suspicious? 119 00:07:39,839 --> 00:07:41,959 No-one on the train saw anything. 120 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,080 One minute they're cruising along 121 00:07:44,081 --> 00:07:46,199 like every other morning, the next... 122 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,598 If anything comes up, call us straightaway. 123 00:07:49,599 --> 00:07:51,399 Excuse me. Hello? Brooks. 124 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,360 We're up to 15 dead now. 125 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:57,119 16, if you count unborn babies. 126 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,039 Right. That's great. Thanks, Pete. 127 00:08:01,679 --> 00:08:04,438 SOCO have found the VIN. 128 00:08:04,439 --> 00:08:06,718 The car belonged to Michael Gennis. 129 00:08:06,719 --> 00:08:08,799 Gennis. Why does that ring a bell? 130 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,239 Gennis put his wife in a coma, permanent brain damage. 131 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,079 He claimed self-defence. Hung jury. 132 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:15,918 Three of them thought it reasonable 133 00:08:15,919 --> 00:08:18,599 he'd defend himself against a five-foot-two woman! 134 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,038 Aren't CPS retrying the case? 135 00:08:21,039 --> 00:08:24,159 Yes, thanks to Alicia Phillips. She pushed for the retrial. 136 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,460 She did an interview about the CPS having 137 00:08:26,461 --> 00:08:28,759 zero tolerance in cases of domestic violence. 138 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,559 She cited the retrial as an example. 139 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,878 Guess which train she takes every morning? 140 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:36,519 She wasn't on the train? Thankfully, no. She's been 141 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,158 promoted and is now senior prosecutor CPS north-west. 142 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,919 But Gennis wouldn't know that. What else do we know about him? 143 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,659 Financial advisor, self-employed. He 144 00:08:43,660 --> 00:08:45,398 beats the shit out of his previous wife 145 00:08:45,399 --> 00:08:47,519 and she gets scared, withdraws her statement. 146 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,639 She emigrated to get away from him. 147 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,399 What a catch(!) Get a warrant. Spin his address. 148 00:08:56,279 --> 00:08:59,479 If I knew what you were looking for, darling, maybe I'd help you. 149 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,238 You can start by sitting down till we're ready to take you in. 150 00:09:03,239 --> 00:09:06,199 I'm not going to sit down. Why don't you tell me what this is about? 151 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,560 It's about the 15 people who died when your 152 00:09:08,561 --> 00:09:10,919 car caused a train crash this morning. 153 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,679 What are you talking about? 154 00:09:12,680 --> 00:09:16,360 My car is outside, parked in its space, where I normally... 155 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,478 You've got to be kidding me. Obviously it's been nicked. 156 00:09:21,479 --> 00:09:23,519 Obviously. 157 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:24,760 Sarge. 158 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,640 Hmm. Same train line. 159 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,840 Planning a trip? What?! 160 00:09:37,399 --> 00:09:39,179 Michael Gennis, I'm arresting you on 161 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:40,959 suspicion of 15 counts of murder. 162 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,800 You do not have to say anything, but it may 163 00:09:42,801 --> 00:09:44,639 harm your defence if you do not mention... Ow! 164 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,720 ..anything you rely on in court. 165 00:09:52,322 --> 00:09:55,201 I had a meeting booked in with a client down in Portsmouth. 166 00:09:55,202 --> 00:09:56,921 I was going to take the train. 167 00:09:56,922 --> 00:09:59,402 OK. Can you provide us with the client's details? 168 00:09:59,403 --> 00:10:01,681 It was months ago. He cancelled. 169 00:10:01,682 --> 00:10:04,401 I must have just held onto the timetable. 170 00:10:04,402 --> 00:10:06,202 Look, this is nothing to do with me. 171 00:10:06,203 --> 00:10:09,161 My car was stolen. But you didn't report it stolen. 172 00:10:09,162 --> 00:10:11,362 I only found out this morning when you took my 173 00:10:11,363 --> 00:10:13,561 front door off, which you'd better be paying for. 174 00:10:13,562 --> 00:10:16,262 When was the last time you saw your vehicle? Last 175 00:10:16,263 --> 00:10:18,961 night when I drove home, parked it and went inside. 176 00:10:18,962 --> 00:10:22,602 How long have you been driving on false plates, Mr Gennis? 177 00:10:24,682 --> 00:10:26,441 Hmm. 178 00:10:26,442 --> 00:10:30,801 Alright, yes. I hold my hands up. I'm a speed freak. 179 00:10:30,802 --> 00:10:33,622 Blame it on Jeremy Clarkson! Well, 103 180 00:10:33,623 --> 00:10:36,441 speeding tickets have just caught up with you. 181 00:10:36,442 --> 00:10:38,522 Right. 182 00:10:39,802 --> 00:10:43,681 You, uh... You don't like playing by the rules, do you? 183 00:10:43,682 --> 00:10:47,402 Exceeding speeding limits, and beating up women. 184 00:10:48,282 --> 00:10:51,481 I think you'll find the jury found me innocent. 185 00:10:51,482 --> 00:10:54,561 They couldn't decide, which is a bit different. 186 00:10:54,562 --> 00:10:56,761 But that was all about to change, wasn't it? 187 00:10:56,762 --> 00:10:58,862 I very much doubt it . The new trial date set 188 00:10:58,863 --> 00:11:00,962 for next month must have made you angry. 189 00:11:02,402 --> 00:11:05,761 Know what I think you did? I've a feeling you're going to tell me! 190 00:11:05,762 --> 00:11:08,262 You drove your car onto those tracks and 191 00:11:08,263 --> 00:11:10,762 watched that train hit it, killing 15 people. 192 00:11:11,842 --> 00:11:14,481 What?! Wow! Is he on something, cos that's... 193 00:11:14,482 --> 00:11:16,362 You wanted Alicia Phillips dead. 194 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:20,722 Alicia Phillips died in the crash? 195 00:11:21,962 --> 00:11:24,842 Right. Well, every cloud, eh? 196 00:11:27,042 --> 00:11:29,961 No, she didn't. Shall I tell you who did? 197 00:11:29,962 --> 00:11:32,762 Oh, here we go. Oh, boy. 198 00:11:33,722 --> 00:11:35,681 David Shelby died. 199 00:11:35,682 --> 00:11:37,361 23. 200 00:11:37,362 --> 00:11:39,241 Newly-wed. 201 00:11:39,242 --> 00:11:42,521 Catherine Parkfield, 38. Mum of three. 202 00:11:42,522 --> 00:11:44,962 Pregnant with a fourth. Her unborn baby 203 00:11:44,963 --> 00:11:47,401 doesn't count in the death toll list. 204 00:11:47,402 --> 00:11:48,682 Sadly. 205 00:11:50,122 --> 00:11:53,521 And Max Dale. He was seven years old. 206 00:11:53,522 --> 00:11:56,362 He was on his way to meet his father, 207 00:11:56,363 --> 00:11:59,201 just back from a tour in Afghanistan. 208 00:11:59,202 --> 00:12:03,081 You know, Gavin Dale will never see his son or his wife again! 209 00:12:03,082 --> 00:12:05,961 Because you killed them! What's the matter with you? 210 00:12:05,962 --> 00:12:09,521 Get out of here! He's meant to be a police officer! Get out now. 211 00:12:09,522 --> 00:12:10,842 Get out! 212 00:12:12,682 --> 00:12:14,602 DS Casey, get in here. 213 00:12:15,482 --> 00:12:17,822 What the hell was that? That bastard killed 15 people. 214 00:12:17,823 --> 00:12:20,161 He could not give a toss! 215 00:12:20,162 --> 00:12:23,082 Don't EVER behave like that in an interview again. Understand? 216 00:12:24,242 --> 00:12:27,342 Maybe DI Chandler let you play bad cop but I 217 00:12:27,343 --> 00:12:30,441 will not have officers undermining prosecutions 218 00:12:30,442 --> 00:12:31,881 with violence! 219 00:12:31,882 --> 00:12:34,582 Count yourself lucky he didn't want a brief today, 220 00:12:34,583 --> 00:12:37,282 otherwise you'd be suspended. Get to your desk. Now! 221 00:12:39,362 --> 00:12:41,362 Is he... 222 00:12:41,842 --> 00:12:43,121 Guv? 223 00:12:43,122 --> 00:12:46,041 Yeah? SOCO's got two sets of dabs off the steering wheel. 224 00:12:46,042 --> 00:12:48,082 One belonged to Gennis, but the other 225 00:12:48,083 --> 00:12:50,121 matched somebody else not on the system. 226 00:12:50,122 --> 00:12:51,801 Maybe he lent the car to a mate. 227 00:12:51,802 --> 00:12:54,102 We'd better identify those prints, otherwise 228 00:12:54,103 --> 00:12:56,401 Gennis's brief will only bring it up in court. 229 00:12:56,402 --> 00:12:58,362 Say someone else did it. Why don't we 230 00:12:58,363 --> 00:13:00,321 just ask him who was driving the car? 231 00:13:00,322 --> 00:13:02,841 Another thing, Guv. It can't have been Gennis. 232 00:13:02,842 --> 00:13:04,881 Unless he's got an invisibility cloak. 233 00:13:04,882 --> 00:13:07,121 We've checked all the CCTV now. 234 00:13:07,122 --> 00:13:09,162 Nobody went in or out of that crash 235 00:13:09,163 --> 00:13:11,201 site from the time the crash happened 236 00:13:11,202 --> 00:13:13,001 till we sealed off the site. 237 00:13:13,002 --> 00:13:16,761 Right. Well, if no-one's been seen going in and out of the site, 238 00:13:16,762 --> 00:13:20,361 then maybe the driver was still in it, hiding amongst the passengers. 239 00:13:20,362 --> 00:13:23,682 Talk to Intel. See if they've finished the background checks. OK. 240 00:13:26,762 --> 00:13:28,921 Um, Guv... Yeah. 241 00:13:28,922 --> 00:13:30,641 About Sam. What about him? 242 00:13:30,642 --> 00:13:33,001 Well... 243 00:13:33,002 --> 00:13:34,601 Yeah. OK. 244 00:13:34,602 --> 00:13:37,242 I'm trusting you, Ron. Keep a tight leash on him. 245 00:13:39,602 --> 00:13:41,361 Sam, I know you're hurting. 246 00:13:41,362 --> 00:13:43,961 I know you've got that kid's face right here. 247 00:13:43,962 --> 00:13:47,682 But if you can't hold it together... Ronnie, look, I'm still here. 248 00:13:48,802 --> 00:13:53,201 I was only in the job four weeks. They put me on Response. 249 00:13:53,202 --> 00:13:55,521 I was the first one on the scene - car crash. 250 00:13:55,522 --> 00:13:57,801 OK? Three kids, all gone. 251 00:13:57,802 --> 00:13:59,962 I couldn't sleep for three months, mate. 252 00:14:01,242 --> 00:14:04,362 That was an accident. This was deliberate. 253 00:14:05,642 --> 00:14:08,681 You have got a boy of your own to think about now 254 00:14:08,682 --> 00:14:10,441 and a job you need to hang on to. 255 00:14:10,442 --> 00:14:12,841 OK? And let me tell you. 256 00:14:12,842 --> 00:14:15,121 This is going to get a whole lot worse. 257 00:14:15,122 --> 00:14:17,562 You've got the inquest, you've got the trial. 258 00:14:17,563 --> 00:14:20,001 All those grieving families wanting answers. 259 00:14:20,002 --> 00:14:23,201 So, let's just get it right for them, eh? 260 00:14:23,202 --> 00:14:25,682 Eh? Yeah. Come on. Come on. 261 00:14:29,642 --> 00:14:32,361 Hello, Kim. Hi, Ronnie. Anyone jump out at you? 262 00:14:32,362 --> 00:14:34,742 Apart from all the fake injuries hoping for a 263 00:14:34,743 --> 00:14:37,121 nice insurance settlement with County Trains! 264 00:14:37,122 --> 00:14:40,801 We've got seven between the ages of 16 and 65 with no ticket 265 00:14:40,802 --> 00:14:42,842 or who can't remember where they boarded 266 00:14:42,843 --> 00:14:44,881 . Have you P and C'd them? No criminal records. 267 00:14:44,882 --> 00:14:46,801 Alright. Thanks, love. 268 00:14:46,802 --> 00:14:48,122 Thanks. 269 00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:52,722 What do you reckon? Our man hung around to admire his 270 00:14:52,723 --> 00:14:55,921 handiwork, then got stuck when we closed the scene? 271 00:14:55,922 --> 00:14:59,522 Let's start with this one. He lied about where he got on. 272 00:15:02,282 --> 00:15:05,202 You told the police you boarded the train at Wimbledon. 273 00:15:06,762 --> 00:15:09,241 It was Surbiton. I stayed at a mate's house. 274 00:15:09,242 --> 00:15:12,561 Why would you lie about that, sir? I was confused. 275 00:15:12,562 --> 00:15:14,761 I had a bang to the head, didn't I? 276 00:15:14,762 --> 00:15:17,041 You couldn't have been that confused. 277 00:15:17,042 --> 00:15:19,521 I mean, you're still at work, aren't you? 278 00:15:19,522 --> 00:15:22,201 If I don't work, I don't get paid. 279 00:15:22,202 --> 00:15:26,201 You also showed the police an expired passport. 280 00:15:26,202 --> 00:15:29,802 We're going to need to see a valid ID. 281 00:15:30,802 --> 00:15:33,881 That's all I've got. What about a driver's licence? 282 00:15:33,882 --> 00:15:35,361 I don't drive. 283 00:15:35,362 --> 00:15:37,882 What? Not at all? 284 00:15:39,282 --> 00:15:42,022 I barely make enough money to pay my mum housekeeping. 285 00:15:42,023 --> 00:15:44,762 How can I afford driving lessons? 286 00:15:50,442 --> 00:15:52,681 Cath, I am not asking to change my contact. 287 00:15:52,682 --> 00:15:54,601 I'm not saying that. 288 00:15:54,602 --> 00:15:56,682 All I'm asking is to... 289 00:15:57,882 --> 00:15:59,641 What? You get him all week! 290 00:15:59,642 --> 00:16:01,321 You get him all week and I get... 291 00:16:01,322 --> 00:16:03,481 Is she not happy? 292 00:16:03,482 --> 00:16:07,322 Most weekends, she dumps him with her mum. She's off partying. 293 00:16:08,642 --> 00:16:11,361 How's it going to hurt if I get him for a weekend? 294 00:16:11,362 --> 00:16:13,121 Had your counselling session yet? 295 00:16:13,122 --> 00:16:16,281 I'll get my therapy down the pub later. Don't worry about that. 296 00:16:16,282 --> 00:16:18,681 Good. Right, then. Here we are. 297 00:16:18,682 --> 00:16:21,561 Number 131. 298 00:16:21,562 --> 00:16:25,441 No valid train ticket. This is Finn Tyler, 36, unemployed. 299 00:16:25,442 --> 00:16:27,561 Cuts and bruises. Treated at the scene. 300 00:16:27,562 --> 00:16:29,881 Used his driver's licence as ID. 301 00:16:29,882 --> 00:16:33,082 At least we know this one can drive! 302 00:16:41,122 --> 00:16:43,122 Hello, there. Hi . Detective Sergeant 303 00:16:43,123 --> 00:16:45,121 Brooks, Detective Sergeant Casey. 304 00:16:45,122 --> 00:16:48,841 We'd like a word with Finn Tyler, please. What's he done now? 305 00:16:48,842 --> 00:16:50,641 Is he hurt? 306 00:16:50,642 --> 00:16:52,362 Not badly. 307 00:16:55,482 --> 00:16:57,601 He doesn't live here, then? 308 00:16:57,602 --> 00:17:01,362 We separated. A month ago. 309 00:17:02,882 --> 00:17:05,001 Can you tell us where he is? 310 00:17:05,002 --> 00:17:06,962 He lives in a bedsit round the corner. 311 00:17:08,442 --> 00:17:10,322 I'll get you the address. 312 00:17:14,162 --> 00:17:17,121 Hello. I like your drawings. 313 00:17:17,122 --> 00:17:19,001 It's a triceratops. 314 00:17:19,002 --> 00:17:22,201 It means three-horned face. Really? 315 00:17:22,202 --> 00:17:24,121 You're very clever, aren't you? 316 00:17:24,122 --> 00:17:27,362 I'm going to be a palaeontologist when I grow up. 317 00:17:30,322 --> 00:17:32,081 He looks a bit mean to me! 318 00:17:32,082 --> 00:17:35,161 He's going to keep me and Mummy safe. 319 00:17:35,162 --> 00:17:38,242 In case Daddy goes funny again. 320 00:17:52,682 --> 00:17:54,881 MAN: 'Who is it?' 321 00:17:54,882 --> 00:17:57,482 Police. 'Just a minute.' 322 00:18:02,842 --> 00:18:06,762 Finny Tyler? DS Brooks. DS Casey. 323 00:18:08,362 --> 00:18:11,801 The driver's licence you showed the officer at the scene 324 00:18:11,802 --> 00:18:14,162 had your wife's address on it. The 325 00:18:14,163 --> 00:18:16,521 separation's only temporary till... 326 00:18:16,522 --> 00:18:19,001 I get myself back on my feet. Still, 327 00:18:19,002 --> 00:18:22,762 might be best to let the DVLA know your details, yeah? 328 00:18:24,922 --> 00:18:26,802 We need to see that licence. 329 00:18:40,442 --> 00:18:44,841 That's my little girl, Ellie. Bridesmaid at my brother's wedding. 330 00:18:44,842 --> 00:18:46,721 Yeah? 331 00:18:46,722 --> 00:18:49,522 That must be tough, being away from her. 332 00:18:58,962 --> 00:19:00,961 Your arm's bleeding. 333 00:19:00,962 --> 00:19:03,081 Did you get that in the crash? 334 00:19:03,082 --> 00:19:05,521 Flying glass. 335 00:19:05,522 --> 00:19:07,201 Right. 336 00:19:07,202 --> 00:19:09,642 Have you got any spare dressings? 337 00:19:12,202 --> 00:19:16,522 We don't just do CPR, you know. I reckon I can bandage a cut. 338 00:19:19,482 --> 00:19:21,401 Over there. 339 00:19:21,402 --> 00:19:23,242 Take a seat. I'll have a look at it. 340 00:19:36,722 --> 00:19:38,482 Pop your top off. 341 00:20:09,562 --> 00:20:12,041 This isn't from flying glass, is it, Finn? 342 00:20:12,042 --> 00:20:13,761 It is. It is! 343 00:20:13,762 --> 00:20:16,041 It's too clean, Finn. 344 00:20:16,042 --> 00:20:17,761 It's too clean. 345 00:20:17,762 --> 00:20:20,122 That was done by a blade. 346 00:20:21,482 --> 00:20:23,602 How long have you been cutting yourself? 347 00:20:28,282 --> 00:20:30,362 How long? 348 00:20:31,962 --> 00:20:34,121 It started when I was a kid. 349 00:20:34,122 --> 00:20:36,681 But I stopped when I met Amanda. 350 00:20:36,682 --> 00:20:38,242 She made everything right. 351 00:20:40,922 --> 00:20:43,281 When little Ellie came into our lives, 352 00:20:43,282 --> 00:20:45,482 I thought I was healed. 353 00:20:47,682 --> 00:20:49,282 And why did it start again? 354 00:20:52,002 --> 00:20:54,322 When I lost them, it all went dark. 355 00:20:55,562 --> 00:20:58,441 It stops when I cut. 356 00:20:58,442 --> 00:21:00,642 For a while, it all stops. 357 00:21:03,682 --> 00:21:05,801 Well, you know what, Finn? 358 00:21:05,802 --> 00:21:08,481 I don't think you got this cut in the crash at all. 359 00:21:08,482 --> 00:21:13,562 I think this was done to make it look like it was hurt in the crash. 360 00:21:17,762 --> 00:21:19,202 Am I right? 361 00:21:23,202 --> 00:21:25,282 Something make it "go dark" again? 362 00:21:34,362 --> 00:21:36,882 I never meant to kill anyone! 363 00:21:45,882 --> 00:21:47,962 But you did, Finn, didn't you? 364 00:21:49,242 --> 00:21:52,121 You killed 15 people. 365 00:21:52,122 --> 00:21:54,922 I meant to kill one. It was supposed to be me! 366 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,879 We were convinced Gennis was guilty. It was his car, he had a motive. 367 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,519 But Finn Tyler's DNA is all over that vehicle. 368 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,559 And his confession is water-tight, as you see. 369 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,399 Do you really think Tyler intended to kill himself? 370 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,679 Why? Does it make a difference? It might influence how we charge him. 371 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,720 Why? You've got his DNA in the vehicle. His 372 00:22:23,721 --> 00:22:25,759 fingerprints are on the steering wheel, 373 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,960 and there's a signed, taped confession. Without 374 00:22:27,961 --> 00:22:30,159 a solicitor present. He didn't want one. 375 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,679 He was seen by a mental health professional? Yeah. 376 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,280 The FME. He was confident... He was 377 00:22:36,281 --> 00:22:39,879 confident Tyler was fit for interview. 378 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,119 I'd like to see it. 379 00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,040 It's by the book, Jake. I sincerely hope you're 380 00:22:45,041 --> 00:22:47,959 going to charge him with 15 counts of murder 381 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,239 and 120 counts of attempted murder. 382 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,600 Cos I was at that scene, and I saw what he did to those people. 383 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,559 It was unequivocal intent by Finn Tyler. 384 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,719 He drove his car onto the tracks knowing the train would crash. 385 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,560 If he was thinking logically, I agree. 386 00:23:05,561 --> 00:23:08,079 But if he was suicidal, logic goes out the window. 387 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,160 It seemed to make a reappearance when he 388 00:23:10,161 --> 00:23:12,239 escaped the vehicle and saved his own life. 389 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:13,919 Screw everyone else's. 390 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,240 We charge murder, 15 counts. Drop the 391 00:23:16,241 --> 00:23:18,559 attempted murder charges if you have to. 392 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:20,520 He's confessed, so it saves us the 393 00:23:20,521 --> 00:23:22,479 cost of a trial . Who's repping him? 394 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,319 Kate Barker. 395 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,839 Kate Barker? You know her? 396 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,799 Met her with Joseph Holland, Manchester. Big time crack dealer. 397 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,900 CPS north-west had him bang to rights, only 398 00:23:31,901 --> 00:23:33,999 he coughs up for Kate Barker as Counsel. 399 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,880 She's the one that got Holland off? 400 00:23:35,881 --> 00:23:39,079 She took tenancy of the set in London about three months ago. 401 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,100 An attractive barrister, new on the scene, and you 402 00:23:42,101 --> 00:23:45,119 don't know about it? You're losing your touch, Jake! 403 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,159 She's doing this on Legal Aid. 404 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,400 Don't let that fool you! 405 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,239 'Diminished responsibility.' 406 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,120 My client has a history of depression 407 00:23:55,121 --> 00:23:58,239 with emotional, unstable, personality traits. 408 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,399 I was hoping you'd surprise me. Jake, by the way. 409 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,359 Finn Tyler grew up in care. 410 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:05,879 Shocking childhood, a prolific self-harmer. 411 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,239 Perfect dad for four years 412 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,799 and then he loses his job and his wife dumps him. 413 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,519 Won't let him see his kid. 414 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,119 He is going to break the jury's hearts. Jury? He confessed. 415 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:20,919 Yeah, about that - the police forgot to call in an appropriate adult. 416 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,680 He didn't need one . The forensic medical 417 00:24:22,681 --> 00:24:24,439 examiner assessed him fit for interview. 418 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:27,839 Oh? With his slashed wrist still gushing blood? 419 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,599 Really? I thought we were here to discuss the plea. 420 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,399 We are. But if we can't agree, this will go before a jury. 421 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,479 What does he want me to agree to, exactly? 422 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,879 Manslaughter, diminished responsibility. 423 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,080 The judge will see concurrent sentences are the 424 00:24:40,081 --> 00:24:42,279 best option, if she doesn't make a hospital order. 425 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,839 Hospital order?! Tyler deserves prison for life. 426 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,700 You can't expect us to treat this as 427 00:24:46,701 --> 00:24:48,559 though he killed one person instead of 15. 428 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,759 But that was his intent, to kill one person - himself. 429 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,600 Shame he didn't have the balls to stay in the car, then. 430 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,279 You can make me a counter. 431 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,840 I do love a good barter. Please, make yourself at home(!) 432 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,959 We're charging murder, 15 counts. 433 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,220 The only bargain you're getting off me is 434 00:25:09,221 --> 00:25:11,479 the 120 dropped attempted murder charges. 435 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,559 I'd say you got a good deal. 436 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,439 No. Not good enough. 437 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,980 The incarceration of mentally disordered 438 00:25:17,981 --> 00:25:20,519 offenders is a passion project of mine. 439 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,799 This will make a great case study. 440 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,239 Ah, now I get the legal aid. 441 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,180 Oh, because all defence barristers are 442 00:25:27,181 --> 00:25:29,120 interested in is a page count, right? 443 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,559 Maybe I'm different. 444 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,719 And was his responsibility diminished? 445 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,199 There's a giant chasm between suicidal thoughts 446 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,919 and crashing a commuter train because your wife left you! 447 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,399 That's not mad, it's selfish. 448 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,240 Sounds like Kate Barker isn't the only 449 00:25:44,241 --> 00:25:46,079 one making this a passion project. 450 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,980 I find suicide hard enough to understand, 451 00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:49,879 but taking other people with you? 452 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,479 That's unforgiveable. 453 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,599 Get the police to talk to Tyler's wife. 454 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,760 Maybe she can fill in that chasm. 455 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:00,119 When he lost his job, he told me he'd been given an admin role. 456 00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,500 They wanted people to work from home. He said he 457 00:26:02,501 --> 00:26:04,879 volunteered so he could spend time with Ellie. 458 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,519 And how did he explain his vanishing wages? 459 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,860 He didn't. Put everything on credit cards. 460 00:26:09,861 --> 00:26:12,200 Mortgage, utilities, the lot. 461 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:18,239 And you found out? Ellie's HLP. What they used to call gifted. 462 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359 She won a part scholarship to a private school. 463 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,200 Because I was doing my nursing training, I got a 464 00:26:24,201 --> 00:26:27,040 bursary to cover the rest of her school fees. 465 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:36,159 We were away at half term, at a friend's cottage in Yorkshire. 466 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,359 Want sugar? No. No, thanks. 467 00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,079 The headmaster rang. 468 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,999 Said that Ellie's fees were a term and a half late. 469 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,559 Finn had maxxed out credit cards and spent her bursary, too. 470 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:50,719 So you gave Finn his marching orders? 471 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,479 I told him I wanted him out. 472 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,359 He was crying, begging me not to leave him. 473 00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:57,879 I mean, I could forgive him the debt. 474 00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,799 The lies, even. 475 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,200 But not Ellie's school fees. 476 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,680 She's been given a chance neither of us ever had. 477 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,119 I slept in with Ellie that night. 478 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:15,879 And the next morning, when we tried to leave the cottage, 479 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,079 he wouldn't let us. 480 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,200 He got violent? 481 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000 He locked the door, he barricaded it. 482 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,280 He had a kitchen knife. Ellie was terrified. 483 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,759 It took me three hours to talk him down. 484 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,040 Get him to let us go. 485 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,040 I honestly thought he was going to kill us all! 486 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,640 Do you know why I'm here today? 487 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:56,880 To see if I'm mental. 488 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,239 Your solicitor wants to say you're not guilty of murder 489 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,239 because you're mentally ill. 490 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,039 Do you think you're ill? 491 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,800 I don't know. 492 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,920 All I know is I wanted out. 493 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,880 I couldn't even get that right. 494 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,040 I screw everything up. 495 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,999 My marriage, 496 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,520 my daughter. 497 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,120 I can't even end my own life without making a mess of it. 498 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,679 Is he psychotic? He's full of shame and rage, but psychotic, no. 499 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,199 He's bitter, resentful. Towards his wife? 500 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,519 I think he wanted to get back at her. 501 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,359 "I killed myself and 15 others, and it's all your fault." 502 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,639 That's got to be hard to live with. 503 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,199 But did he ever intend to go through with it? 504 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,660 If he did, he knew perfectly well he was going 505 00:28:52,661 --> 00:28:55,119 to take a lot of other people with him. 506 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:59,399 And that doesn't suggest a mental health disorder 507 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,240 sufficient to demonstrate an abnormality of the mind. 508 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,500 I've read both the reports, and while it's 509 00:29:06,501 --> 00:29:09,399 clear Mr Tyler was suffering depression, 510 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,799 and insecure attachments from his time in care, 511 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,519 I'm still not convinced he's suffering an abnormality of the mind. 512 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,800 My Lady, the defendant was evidently suicidal 513 00:29:18,801 --> 00:29:21,079 following the break-down of his marriage. 514 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,639 If this isn't an abnormality of the mind, then what is? 515 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:26,919 My Lady, relationships break up. People feel a little low. 516 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,359 They don't all try and derail commuter trains! 517 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,760 A little low? You can tell you've never 518 00:29:31,761 --> 00:29:34,159 had a relationship worth hanging on to! 519 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,079 I'm inclined to agree with the Crown, Miss Barker. 520 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:41,359 If your client wants to plead diminished responsibility, so be it. 521 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,040 But it's up to the jury to decide whether or not 522 00:29:44,041 --> 00:29:46,719 he was suffering an abnormality of the mind 523 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,560 at the time the offence was committed. 524 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,199 'He remained at the scene.' 525 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,639 He mingled with the real passengers. 526 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,380 He used the penknife to inflict 527 00:29:58,381 --> 00:30:01,119 superficial wounds to his hands and arms. 528 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,519 He was treated by paramedics and then released. 529 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:09,479 How would you, as a police officer, interpret these actions? 530 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,959 He was trying to blend in. 531 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,200 Get away. 532 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,640 Like any other hit and runner. 533 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,480 I understand you arrived at the scene about 534 00:30:29,481 --> 00:30:31,719 20 minutes after the crash. Yes, I did. 535 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:36,719 Am I right you attempted to give CPR to a young child 536 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,840 but sadly were unable to save him. 537 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,360 Yes. A seven-year-old boy, Max Dale. 538 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,319 I did everything I could 539 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,480 but he died. 540 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,599 That must have been incredibly challenging for you. 541 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,359 Traumatic. 542 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,720 That's my job. 543 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,920 Even so, you're a father. 544 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,839 I'm sure having a child your son's age die in your arms 545 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,440 must have affected you greatly. 546 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,040 Yes, I suppose so. 547 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,559 You must have felt very angry with whoever was responsible. 548 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,359 Of course I felt angry. 549 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,839 But I remained professional. 550 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,199 You arrested Mr Tyler. Yes, I did. 551 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,559 Interrogated him. I interviewed him. 552 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,860 He confessed to an officer who had held his 553 00:31:35,861 --> 00:31:38,159 dying seven-year-old victim in his arms. 554 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,960 He admitted his guilt at his arrest. 555 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,719 And once again during an interview. 556 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,599 No-one put any pressure on him. 557 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,440 Did you make any special arrangements for Mr Tyler? 558 00:31:47,441 --> 00:31:49,279 Special arrangements? 559 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,360 Were any special precautions taken while he was in custody? No. 560 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,680 Are you quite sure about that? 561 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880 He was on suicide watch. 562 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:11,080 Nothing more, My Lady. 563 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,919 Kate Barker scored a hat trick off Sam Casey. 564 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,000 If Tyler was on a suicide watch, he must be mentally ill. 565 00:32:19,001 --> 00:32:21,079 That's how the jury will see it. 566 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:23,120 Feeling suicidal could be seen as remorse 567 00:32:23,121 --> 00:32:25,159 for his actions. That's evidence of sanity. 568 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,480 How he felt after is irrelevant. All the defence 569 00:32:27,481 --> 00:32:29,799 has to prove is his state of mind at the time. 570 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,680 Kate Barker is using this case as a soapbox to 571 00:32:32,681 --> 00:32:35,559 highlight the cuts in mental health provision. 572 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,600 How too many mentally ill people end 573 00:32:37,601 --> 00:32:39,639 up being criminalised by the State. 574 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,159 That will resonate with the jury. Everyone's angry about NHS cuts. 575 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,759 I have to dash. 576 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,719 This case isn't about cuts. 577 00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,680 I won't let her distract them. 578 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:08,759 Dr Holdsworth, 579 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,839 the antidepressants you prescribed have a number of side effects. 580 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,199 All medication has side effects. 581 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,940 Perhaps you could tell us the ones 582 00:33:16,941 --> 00:33:18,679 caused by this particular medication. 583 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,839 Nausea, decreased appetite, raised cholesterol, sexual problems. 584 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,780 Insomnia, nightmares, agitation, confusion, 585 00:33:26,781 --> 00:33:29,719 hallucinations, suicidal thoughts. 586 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,919 Well, in some cases, yes. 587 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,599 Finn Tyler was also a prolific self-harmer. 588 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,479 I had no idea he was self-harming. 589 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,639 All I saw was a man feeling down over a marriage break-up. 590 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,479 Nothing more. 591 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,800 What a shame you didn't see a man in 592 00:33:44,801 --> 00:33:47,119 severe crisis, begging you for help. 593 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,799 Because then 15 lives might have been saved. 594 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,999 My Lady, did I miss the question there? 595 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,720 The jury will disregard the last comment made by Miss Barker. 596 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,900 Dr Holdsworth, you were the last medical professional 597 00:34:02,901 --> 00:34:05,519 to see the defendant before the train crash. 598 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,159 You saw him a month before when you prescribed the antidepressants. 599 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,380 That's right. Did he appear as though he was 600 00:34:11,381 --> 00:34:13,599 suffering with a mental health disorder? 601 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,759 He was behaving like a spoilt child. 602 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,079 When he didn't get what he wanted, he had a tantrum and stormed out. 603 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,720 What made him so angry? I suggested he try the 604 00:34:21,721 --> 00:34:24,359 antidepressants and use some relaxation techniques. 605 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,279 But he wanted sleeping pills. 606 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,540 I'm not in the habit of dishing them out without 607 00:34:28,541 --> 00:34:30,799 very good reason . Because of budget cuts? 608 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,400 No, because I don't want patients becoming 609 00:34:33,401 --> 00:34:35,999 needlessly reliant on addictive medication, 610 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,679 especially when they have a history of addiction. 611 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:43,519 My Tyler has a history of drug addiction? Alcohol abuse. 612 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,959 He was treated in rehab for alcoholism in 2004 613 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040 and again earlier this year. 614 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,680 Amanda, hang on a sec. 615 00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:59,119 Did you know Finn was an alcoholic when you first met him? Yeah. 616 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:03,519 But I really believed he'd stay sober, for me and Ellie. 617 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,759 What made him start drinking again? 618 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,519 He had a run-in at work with his brother Daniel. 619 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,040 It just triggered something in him. He's 620 00:35:11,041 --> 00:35:13,559 so jealous of his brother's success. 621 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,159 What sort of business was it? 622 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,239 Um, security. CCTV monitoring, mainly. 623 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:21,760 Daniel's got contracts up and down the country. 624 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,319 What was the name of the company? 625 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,160 Haleton Security. 626 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,580 Daniel Haleton was spoken to after the crash 627 00:35:34,581 --> 00:35:36,919 about security and any disgruntled employees. 628 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,820 We even asked him for a list of anyone 629 00:35:38,821 --> 00:35:40,719 that had been let go in the past year. 630 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:44,799 He never mentioned his brother? No. And because Tyler was unemployed, 631 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,639 there was no reason for us to ask about his last employer. 632 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,239 Haleton was paying him cash so Tyler never made it onto any books. 633 00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,560 Because of the different surnames, we just didn't connect any dots. 634 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,279 Mr Haleton, 635 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,759 you gave your brother a job at your firm, Haleton Security. 636 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,719 I felt sorry for him. He'd just lost his job 637 00:36:05,720 --> 00:36:08,799 and Amanda was doing her nursing qualifications. 638 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,199 I believe you fired him because he was unreliable. That's right. 639 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,540 He was drinking. I paid for rehab, but 640 00:36:14,541 --> 00:36:16,879 he was just as bad when he got out. 641 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,879 You and your brother grew up in care. We had a rough start. 642 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,799 But you've got to put the past behind you. 643 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,240 Do you think this was a genuine suicide attempt? 644 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,639 No. 645 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,599 I think he wanted to get back at me. 646 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,080 How would causing the train crash get back at you? 647 00:36:38,081 --> 00:36:41,199 My company had the contract with County Trains. 648 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,279 It was my firm that watched the gate that he broke through. 649 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,199 So Finn knew about the shift change? 650 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,399 He knew the best time to hit that gate? 651 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,120 It was his job to watch it. 652 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,420 Looking a lot more like revenge than 653 00:36:57,421 --> 00:36:59,719 diminished responsibility, to me. 654 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:02,359 You can't be mentally ill and vengeful? 655 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,599 What about school shootings? 656 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,759 Bullied, demoralised teenagers, depressed, seeking revenge. 657 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,640 Any jury with half a brain cell will 658 00:37:10,641 --> 00:37:12,519 see Finn Tyler for exactly what he is. 659 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,180 An angry, vengeful man who needlessly murdered 660 00:37:15,181 --> 00:37:17,840 15 people to get back at his brother. 661 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,880 Come on, Miss Barker. No last word? 662 00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,839 When the court's heard from our psychiatrist, I'm calling Finn Tyler. 663 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,599 I'll leave the last word to him. 664 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,840 I saw you with Henry. 665 00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,279 Were you jealous? 666 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,840 I've got to get this. Sorry. 667 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,040 Hello. Kate Barker. 668 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,119 'I never had a dad.' 669 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,920 Mum was an alcoholic. We were in and out of 670 00:37:53,921 --> 00:37:56,719 care homes from as early as I can remember. 671 00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:00,599 I started drinking when I was 12, 672 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,119 self-harming when I was 13. 673 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,079 And you carried on as an adult? 674 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,839 It was how I coped. 675 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,239 Your brother is a successful businessman. 676 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,159 He told the court he'd moved on from his damaged past. 677 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,319 Fostered by a decent family, wasn't he? 678 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,239 They adopted him. Sent him to a good school. 679 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,759 He was never pushed from pillar to post like me. 680 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,479 Why did your marriage break down? 681 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:27,679 Daniel sacked me. I was so scared of losing Amanda 682 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,639 I never told her. 683 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,620 When she found out I'd run up so much 684 00:38:31,621 --> 00:38:33,599 debt, she freaked. Kicked me out. 685 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,440 I tried to get myself together again, but... 686 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,040 She wouldn't let me see my little girl. 687 00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:44,440 Without here, there... Well, there was no point. 688 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,400 So you took that car and drove onto the tracks. 689 00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,239 Tell me, Finn, did you honestly intend to kill yourself? 690 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,599 Yes! Didn't you realise other people could be hurt? 691 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,399 I thought the train would wipe out the car 692 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,199 and keep going, like a tube train when someone jumps in front of it. 693 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,959 But you got out of the car. 694 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,039 Why did you do that? 695 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,480 I saw the train coming and... 696 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:17,319 I saw Ellie crying at my funeral and I couldn't. 697 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,479 I tried to hot-wire the car again, but it wouldn't spark. 698 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,759 I swear to God, I never meant to hurt anyone. 699 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,720 I'm so sorry. 700 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,040 If you really wanted to kill yourself, why 701 00:39:43,041 --> 00:39:45,239 didn't you throw yourself off a building? 702 00:39:45,240 --> 00:39:50,039 I wanted to make sure I didn't survive to be a burden on my family. 703 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,039 You could have jumped in front of a tube, taken an overdose. 704 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,800 That's why I wanted the sleeping tablets, 705 00:39:54,801 --> 00:39:56,559 but the doctor never gave them to me. 706 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,359 What was the real reason you caused the train crash? 707 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,840 I wanted to kill myself . Was it to get your wife's 708 00:40:01,841 --> 00:40:04,319 attention and get revenge on your brother to boot? 709 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,719 I mean, she's been here for you every day, hasn't she? 710 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,999 Yeah. You got her attention. 711 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,199 And it only took 15 lives. 712 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:15,919 My family is everything to me. 713 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,239 Do you expect us to believe you thought no-one else would be hurt? 714 00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:21,540 I wasn't thinking straight. And you didn't 715 00:40:21,541 --> 00:40:23,839 want to leave your little girl without a dad. 716 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,280 I couldn't. What about the fatherless or motherless 717 00:40:26,281 --> 00:40:28,719 children you created with your reckless lies? 718 00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,920 I never meant... Your daughter gets to see you. 719 00:40:30,921 --> 00:40:33,119 Maybe only once a fortnight at the prison. 720 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,820 But there are 16 children who will never see their 721 00:40:35,821 --> 00:40:38,519 mummy or their daddy again, because of you! 722 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,319 "Poor me"? "Poor Finn Tyler"? 723 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,940 You can watch Ellie grow up, make friends, 724 00:40:44,941 --> 00:40:47,559 pass exams, get a boyfriend, get married. 725 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,999 Max Dale's father is here today. How do you think he feels? 726 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,479 He will never see his wife and son again. 727 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,440 Maybe you'll be lucky enough to help Ellie 728 00:40:55,441 --> 00:40:57,399 choose what subjects she takes at school, 729 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,040 what she wears on her wedding day. All Gavin Dale will 730 00:41:00,041 --> 00:41:02,679 choose is what flowers to put on his son's grave! 731 00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,439 Is this a speech, My Lady? Mr Thorne, please. 732 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,220 You could have chosen a method of 733 00:41:07,221 --> 00:41:08,999 suicide that didn't endanger others. 734 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,960 You could have saved all those children who 735 00:41:10,961 --> 00:41:12,919 lost parents from a lifetime of misery! 736 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,440 That's not diminished responsibility! It's cowardice! 737 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:28,920 Jake. 738 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,559 If he gets a hospital order, he'll be out in six months. 739 00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,319 Or detained for the rest of his life. He's not mentally ill. 740 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,079 The doctors in a secure unit will spot it in a second. 741 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,159 He'll be out the doors before we know it. It's all "ifs", Sam. 742 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,480 If the jury find him guilty of murder, he's facing 15 life sentences. 743 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,359 Have you been drinking? 744 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,920 Yes. I had a couple at lunch time. So what? 745 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,559 Let's hope the jury's back Monday with good news. 746 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,439 Good news?! 747 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,679 There's no good news for Gavin Dale. 748 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,040 That bastard wiped out his entire family! 749 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,559 Please answer either yes or no to my first question. 750 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,359 Have the jury reached a verdict upon which you are all agreed? 751 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,799 Yes. 752 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,100 On count one, on the charge of the murder of Max Dale, 753 00:42:21,101 --> 00:42:24,399 how do you find the defendant, Finn Luke Tyler? 754 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600 Guilty or not guilty? 755 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,199 Not guilty. 756 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,959 But guilty of manslaughter by reason of diminished responsibility. 757 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,959 On count two, on the charge of the murder of Marnie Dale, 758 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,279 how do you find the defendant, Finn Luke Tyler? 759 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,319 Guilty or not guilty? 760 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,100 Not guilty. But guilty of manslaughter 761 00:42:47,101 --> 00:42:49,880 by reason of diminished responsibility. 762 00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,120 Finn Luke Tyler, you have been found 763 00:42:57,121 --> 00:43:00,119 guilty on 15 counts of manslaughter 764 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,519 by reason of diminished responsibility. 765 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,639 I am therefore sentencing you to a hospital order 766 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,599 with a Section 41 restriction. 767 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,920 You will not be released without leave of the Secretary of State. 768 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,079 He'll get treatment in hospital. 769 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:23,319 He'll apply for release in six months. 770 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:24,919 He deserved 15 life sentences. 771 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:26,519 Maybe he did. 772 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,719 You agree he was criminally responsible? 773 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:31,639 He did a terrible thing, but it could have been averted. 774 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,500 Millions spent on prisons, while mental 775 00:43:33,501 --> 00:43:35,359 health takes the brunt of the courts. 776 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,560 I don't make social policy. No. You 777 00:43:37,561 --> 00:43:39,760 just clean up after those that do. 778 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,599 Oh, it's been fun(!) Has she told you the good news, then? 779 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,580 I didn't think it was fair during the 780 00:43:48,581 --> 00:43:50,559 trial, in case it distracted you. 781 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,020 Apart from your awful taste in footwear, there's 782 00:43:53,021 --> 00:43:55,479 little you could do to distract me, Miss Barker. 783 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279 Kate. You should definitely start calling me Kate. 784 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,399 Especially as you'll be sharing an office. 785 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,120 Kate will be joining us from Monday. Alicia's replacement. 786 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,239 Who's for a celebratory drink? Yeah. 787 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:11,320 I'll see you there. I just need a quick work with my client. 788 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,959 If you could just get your client to sign that for us, 789 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:26,199 and nominate a family member, we can get his property to them. 790 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,959 Let's see. Estranged wife or loving brother? 791 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,679 Here to see Finn Tyler. 792 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,879 If you want to hang on a tick, I'll get this right back. 793 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:35,680 Tyler's in number eight. 794 00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,359 What are you doing here? 795 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:50,959 Sam? 796 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,439 Sam, what are you doing down here? Sam? 797 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,479 He's dead! 798 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:05,880 Tyler's dead. 799 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,400 Subtitles brought to you by www.addic7ed.com